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Yes shame on Joe and Mika. Basically you are saying that you are going to ride with a dictator to save your behind.

So again that is why Black women and men no longer trust this system.

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There are a lot of other folks that don't either, including this older white woman. No corporate media for me. Journalism is basically dead there. On TV especially, you just have news "readers" and opinion talkers all doing their best to boost their ratings ($$). Print / digital corporate media is just as bad.

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Ditto Heidi. And I'm white. Female, 73 y.o.

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Ditto, Sandra and Heidi. The Fourth Estate is crucial to our trying to use democracy.

He called it "fake news," and then made it faker. Cue Fox and X.

The media trounced Biden for his pathetic stumble in the debate, but went on to declare Trump the winner. I defy any intelligent person to read the entire response by Trump in that debate to the question (twice asked!) of what he'd do about the opioid crisis and conclude he won the debate. He rambled with trite slogans and never answered in any way. They both lost the debate, and we lost a fair reporting about it.

We need to justly reaffirm the value of journalists and politicians both, but because they're serving the truth. Mika and Joe can start by explaining why they went and reporting on what they encountered. Good for Meidas for calling them on it, but give them their due if they explain.

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He didn't debate. Biden answered the questions. TRUMP DIDN'T, with one exception: when asked for THE THIRD TIME if he would accept the election results if he lost, Trump said, after having to stop and think a moment, "Absolutely. If it is a fair and honest election." Which means if he doesn't think it is fair, more insurrectionist will rain down. The rest of the time he spent deriding Biden ans spouting bullshit.

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He never argues intelligently. He uses insult, ridicule, and totalistic false dichomities to "weave" an answer only the gullible would take as intelligent. Sadly, it worked better than intelligent argumentation would have. The gullibles prevailed. They "think" with tribal loyalty.

The mainstream media let us down by broadcasting his stupidity as if reasonable and normative. Trying to be neutral, they betrayed their profession and us.

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Omg—-on the nose! How I feel.

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I cancelled not just MSNBC and CNN, but Comcast in its entirety in 2018. The BBC, Atlantic, AP and now MediasTouch, MuellerSheWrote and many high quality others are here for it. 70, White, rolling up my sleeves. Shame on Mika and Joe, but they became performers years ago

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I think anyone out there who has any kind of service ties with Comcast, needs to cancel their contract or ride it out until its completion and cut ties.

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We have a 6 yr contract with Comcast at my Condo Association. I think we have 2 years left. The prior board locked us into that contract. Once it ends thats it for me

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Silently boycott them by not giving them your business and spreading the word. That’ll show ’em. 😉

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Ditto Diana. I am white, female and almost 73 years old.

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Ditto here, too. Sixty-six YO white lady.

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Ditto. 71 year old white lady.

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Ditto ! White 62yr old,ty MEIDAS !

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I'm done, free, white, in my 70s

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Same here. I’m 73, used to watch MSNBC but stopped about 3 weeks ago. Shame on Mika and Joe and MSNBC leadership(?- if you can call it that now).

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Me too, exactly! I'm beside myself with angst! Oh, and I'm childless, by choice. Happily married for over 30 years.

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Yup. This middle aged white woman, too. Thank goodness for outlets like Meidas Touch!

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100%. 70 y.o. here.

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Ditto here, 70 yr old white female. I never did like them, never watched.

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80yr old white woman agrees with disgusting msm and will be canceling my Spectrum services.

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Any of my black sisters in their mid to older 50’s in here. Nothing about msnbc EVER peaked my interest. And I’m a news head.

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I’ve heard he’s a total jerk

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Ditto, Heidi. 77 y/o white grandma/great grandma who only wants truth, integrity and loyalty to our constitution and country.

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I'm with you.This older white woman was appalled when I listened to Joe and Mika and immediately disengaged from the msnbc network and deleted the app as well.Enough is enough!!!

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In my 80's. I have been appalled by the whole campaign coverage. I don't watch any news coverage on TV. All most every newscaster wants me to believe what they say not what I see.

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Watch PBS Newshour

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Exactly, white, female, 70

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No more Mika and Joe for me, they suck.

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Ditto. Just unfollowed the show!

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They sucked before; now they totally suck. Fascists They Are!! There is no excuse for their betrayal of the U.S. They know what's coming. If this was the 1930's, it would be like paying a visit to AH to kiss the ring.

Cowards, plastic people;.and, willing to sell out everything they've said they stood for over the last 7/8 years. How easy it seems it is for them to fold up; and, run away. Not surprising. I never really believed they would keep their word. Probably they would have been fired from MSNBC if they didn't go to Mara Largo and kiss his ......! Not a shred of integrity between them!

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White female and beyond fed up with this BS. No trust whatsoever.

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Ditto. Shame on you Mika and Joe!

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Anyone who has studied history knows that black women & men, immigrants, Indigenous peoples, have VERY little reason not to trust this system.

And we STAND TOGETHER.

I am an old lady, happen to be white, happen to side with all who have survived oppression.

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CORRECTION: very little reason TO trust this system.

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Understood what you meant the first time Pam and I agree!

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Welcome to MSM's Vichy News.

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Don't you think that we should be engaging with him now? So that the reporting about him is done from the first person and not bases on what fox news says? Maybe I'm confused but it seems to me that they are doing the hard thing.

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You will never get fair reporting from either cable news network. CNN, Fox, and MSNBC have been bought by right wing owners. Better turn to independent journalist, like substack.

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So do you think they were armtwisted by MSNBC to do this?

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I think so. I would have quit first

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Yep.

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Well, maybe they'll quit anyway- they'll probably end up happier if they do though. Also kind of sad & ironic

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Yes, told go to the dragon's lair at Mara Largo or you're fired! See what they chose, they have 0 integrity. Not a shred of integrity between them! Cowards, they are!

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Absolutely

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The media, especially the NYT, and others are baked in misogyny. It drips off their journalist's fingertips onto the pages. They need to make their billionaire neoliberal oligarch owners happy.

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Not so. Do you think the "evil liberal deep state media" makes this shit up? Exposing his lunacy, fascism, lying, corruption, philandering, PREJUDICE, GREED, treason, hatred, vitriol and all then rest by reporting ON WHAT COMES OUT OF HIS MOUTH, HIS VERY OWN MOUTH, is a lot closer to journalism than the bullshit drumbeating Fox puts out there.

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Madam, what you just wrote was very ill-informed. I see the possible morality in what you are saying, however, this has nothing to do with "reporting". This was solely to bend the knee to the new Emperor, and even in doing so does not guarantee that Comcast will be left alone, and knowing that the former "Morning Joe" audience will now leave them, it's not likely Mika and Joe will be highly paid in the near future.

I feel badly (at least at the moment) for all of the talent that still works for or are regular contributors to MSNBC: If they stay, they are fools, but if they leave, where can they go?

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Better to leave with your integrity and moral compass intact. It didn't work out too well for the "talent" that clung to AH in the 1930's and 1940's. Those folks went down in history as traitors. Joe and Mika are pathetic, no other words for what they did to save their own skin and lucretive jobs.

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I clearly don't know enough, and should not be commenting.

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That's not true. You SHOULD comment.

Keeping to oneself when talking about this sort of thing is how MAGA won.

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I’m not sure anyone making comments here knows enough. Seems to be a lot of opinion, not a lot of irrefutable fact.

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Anything wrong with expressing our opinions? Do we still have that freedom?

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Some people don't think so. Too hell with that. I will be expressing my opinion!😎

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She said she didn’t know enough. To me, knowledge is about facts. Opine all you want. Jeez.

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The facts are that they traveled to Mar a Lago, that they made nice with trump, and that trump has previously threatened to pull their FCC license. How can you say we don’t have FACTS?

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Why did you?

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Nope they are not. The hard thing is the real and right thing. Tell the darn truth.

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They can report without literally going to his house to beg him to play nice. After all he's done? We shouldn't compromise on taking people's rights away or the criminal and politically motivated circumvention of justice he has perpetrated. You compromise on tax brackets, budget items, not whether we should give the dictator more air time on our show so our network can profit. What they did was morally wrong and they border on complicity.

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They are complicit; and, need to be held to account. Betrayal is an ugly thing! Mika and Joe have no courage, they folded like empty suits!!

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They don't need to go to MaraLardo. They need to report the news. No spin. No MAGA bullshit. If Dump talks about using the military to wipe out his political enemies, you report Dump will use the military to wipe out his enemies. You know, report exactly what he says. msm won't do that. Fvck them. I am a 71yo woman. I watched Dan Rather, etc. Even Huntley-Brinkley as a kid because my dad watched them. They reported news. They were journalists, not ass kissers. Last time I watched Fox was shock and awe and WMDs. Now it's just Meidas and a few other indies here and on BlueSky. That's enough.

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Me too. 72 and ready to march!

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When I first saw a clip of this earlier today, my reaction was..let me think about this. I've come to this conclusion: If Joe and Mika think of themselves as part of the media (which they are), then it would be fine to do an interview with him. But that's not what they did. Instead, they went there at a personal level. No camera, no recording, no telling their audience what was really said, and probably not really any questions, especially any hard questions. That tells me they were trying to stay off his "enemies list."

No, they aren't doing the hard thing. They are doing the cowardly thing. Shame on them for not doing their jobs.

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Trump doesn’t grant interviews that won’t be favorable to him. Also, why go to Mar-a-Lago? Do you think they visit the homes of any other President elect?

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Sucking up to and normalizing insanity is not what we need. The hard thing they are doing is saving their job. Let’s see how that works out with no viewers.

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if they did actual reporting yes. I'm old enough to remember what that is. That is not what they were doing anyhow. It was all blabber and opinion.

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Oh you are so right! The blabber on Joe and Mika.was mind numbing! That was the purpose! I was constantly putting them on mute, the few times I watched the Morning Joe Show. Sometimes the guests were good. They had some other Hosts, I appreciated. But Joe was forever talking over people, especially Mika. Joe has issues. Not surprised they scurried to Mara Largo this quickly to kiss TFG's....! They betrayed everything they said they stood for; and, they can not erase that stain.

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Thats the purpose of ANY cable news, to optimize the bottom line.

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Not to mention the very, very lucrative thing.

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In the before times, maybe you would have a good point. However, since Trump attacked them both on a very personal level("Mika is ugly and stupid," "Joe is a murderer," etc.) and the fact that they know he is a liar and wants to be a dictator, why in the world would you even do this? Do they think he is going to start telling the truth all of a sudden? Actually, they just want the eyeballs on their program (ratings) when talking about the shit show.

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They did the hard thing, but only to save their asses.

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Joy unless they are going to be truthful. They can’t tell it as bad as it is.

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I agree

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I so agree with you! Thank you MTN for telling the truth!💙

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This is a damn shame how this country doesn't care about a racist tyrant being President...this only confirmed what I've already knew that the United States continue to be a racist country. It's confirmed that many white people don't want to live in a multiracial society.

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Their fear was stoked by propaganda. Too bad they are so easily bamboozled.

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Agreed Deborah. As a black woman, I am done with the normalization and acceptance of the racism, sexism, etc. that has been on overdrive for the last 8 years. I have always followed trusted, black media. Doing so now more than ever before and forever. Roland, Don Lemon, Native Land Pod (Angela, Tiffany and Andrew), Sherrilyn Ifill, Eddie Glaude, etc. are the sources that fill my day in news, culture, etc. I will continue to view Joy Reid, Lawrence O'Donnell, Nicole Wallace, Rachel Maddow, The Weekend , Ali Velshi, Rev. Al Sharpton and Jonathan Capehart.

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Here's what I wrote on their YouTube page this morning as I unsubscribed….

From me: MSNBC, this is the last time I will watch your network. You can try to shame us by making it seem like we are the ones out of line. This is heartbreaking 💔. Good riddance, Joe and Mika. I hope he doesn't arrest you both.

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They should KNOW he just loves to torment people, and he loves to do whatever he thinks will upset them the most & make them CRAWL !!! WE ARE ALL WATCHING THE MOST DEPRAVED HUMAN ON THIS PLANET DO HIS THING !!!!

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He GETS OFF on people crawling back to him. It is an old sick story..

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Along with being a psychopath he’s also a sadist

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I agree except I don't care if he arrests them. They had a major role in getting him elected the last time!! I might be old but can still remember and I will die mad about what the media did to Hillary.

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I hope he does.

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You have a point!!

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I Hate MSNBC....I Hate Morning Joe.....I Hate Mika

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I hate everybody except us today.

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My thoughts too

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Doing the same thing right now.

(unsubscribing, not kissing the ring or giving a dictator power)

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But Rachel, Lawrence, Nicole! Don’t abandon them.

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I❤️Love Them. Joy and Chris too. There are also other good and decent Journalists at MSNBC.

Joe and Mika betrayed us all!

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I won't stop listening to Rachel or Lawrence.

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Are they still on or did the sell out to the dark side? My cable was cancelled long ago.

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Thank you--I just posted, too. Here's the Youtube link for anyone else who wants to voice an opinion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndkgprDLKjw

Commenters are overwhelmingly disappointed.

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👍👍👍👍👍👍

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I sent an email to MSNBC saying that they are "obeying in advance" which is what Timothy Snyder said NOT to do. I also said that they are just covering their hides because of what the 🍊💩 plans to do to those who speak the truth about him. Sellout they both are!

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Will wait to see what the evening crew does

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Agree

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And I kinda hope they are arrested and sent to rehabilitation camps.

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Can’t stand them. I wonder if they did privately discuss the unhealthy consequences of being sent to the illegal immigrant’s camp. It’s where all immigrants, political prisoners, and other “undesirables” will be sent, eventually. I’m somewhere down the line on that list.

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Goodbye Joe and Mika.. enjoy your MAGA

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This is the reason I stopped watching corporate media. I am so sick and tired of them being afraid of the orange buffoon. I am sick and tired of them not holding him accountable.

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They all sold us out.

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What a couple of suck-ups! No respect! None!

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Wow! What hypocrites! DISGUSTING!🤬

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Shame on them indeed. Thought they were on the side of democracy but now, they're just stuck-ups to Trump and kissing his ring. pitiful

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They have not changed .. they just lied to keep making money ... Remember they are BOTH Republicans!! Always were...

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Just realized that today. Thank you for your insight!

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Will no longer watch their show. I’ve been off and on for a while now and this sealed it.

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Same! Plus the way they behaved after the election was over. One could tell they were heading this direction immediately!

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I’m done with corporate media. I don’t even watch local news anymore. It’s their fault… They did not educate the public.

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If it was a way to boycott then off air. The only thing I watch now is Meidas Touch.. I occasionally watch Don Lemon.. I’m selective now.

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I suggest you catch David Pakman, Rational National, Kyle Kulinski in addition to Meidas Touch Network. All on YouTube.

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Bryan Tyler Cohen is still good...let's see how it goes.

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And Democracy Now! and Thom Hartman.

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Don't forget Keith Olbermann

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NPR

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And Dollemore and Farron Cousins and Ken Harbaugh.

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I'm a lot more selective.

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WatchPBS Newshour and Washington Week

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Wow.

Sorry, but I have to say this in Canadian English: that's fucked.

MSNBC was the last possible glimmer of corporate media being media instead of propaganda. If Maddow, Laurence and a few others do not walk away, they are accepting culpability.

Stay Real, MTN!

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Canadians protect your border from the coming American refugee crisis. Not tomorrow or next week. But it’s coming.

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We talk about it often. We're a country of 40 million people, not sure how we can take on 60 million new Canadians?

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This is what happens to a country that doesn’t take care of its people.

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Canada does take care of its people. COVID & Flu vaccines are still free, and I have been admitted to hospital 5 times this year and the only cost was parking.

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No surprise. They blow with the wind.

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I was shocked and saddened by Morning Joe this morning. Unbelievable. Heartbreaking. I won't watch and, I hope that they feel it.

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I stopped watching them a long time ago for exactly these reasons. Their trip to Mar A Lago tells you everything you need to know about their integrity. Thank goodness for Meidas Touch.

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Stopped watching them, along with most all media months ago. Get my info from Midas Touch, and other YouTube streamers. Mainstream media is a joke.

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Sad but true

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I will never watch their show again. What a disgraceful decision! Talk about losing credibility and sacrificing integrity.

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Perhaps they never had integrity...it was always easy to do what they did and to say what they did and now that it's hard we see they never believed any of it, just said what would get them viewers.

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I noticed that even the SNL cold-open this past Saturday basically “bended the knee” also towards Trump. They’re obviously trying to stroke his ego. This “Dictatorship-101” is going to be quite an interesting class for all of us. Buckle-up! And yes, I’m VERY disappointed with Morning Joe….

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I’m disgusted by how both Comedy Central and-to a somewhat lesser degree-SNL show trump looking semi-sane but fantastic President Joe Biden as a demented old fool who doesn’t know where he is and can’t string two words together.

Granted, they also hit trump pretty hard but this mockery of Dark Brandon is a shameful insult. STOP IT!

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I think they were actually mocking the republicans like Graham, Vance, etc. who denounced him and then turned around and sucked up.

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SNL pulls its punches. A major episode on The Suckups is needed.

As is, the entire Republican Party is RINO.

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I’m in complete agreement Liz.

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