Can’t we file a class action lawsuit against Elon for sharing our social security numbers and information, with 6 young men, with zero security clearance???!! I am furious!!!
Trump doesn't believe in privacy except where he and his filthy operatives and family members are concerned. "Immunity for me. None for thee!" is his motto and we have the stupid SCOTUS to thank for that.
Nope. Then no one would get any money from the government. Get the source code that the boys changed and court order that the changes be removed. I am retired mainframe programmer. It is not the hardware you want. It is the code, the instructions that cause the damage, you want.
Yes, exactly. I too just retired from a mid-range computer system at a large company. One of the things Heather Cox Richardson posted about when WIRED exposed some of the information about Elon's guys, was that the one guy, who just quit and ran away supposedly, was writing code on a production system in a way that would make it difficult to just reverse. And also that a long planned upgrade of Treasury is about to occur and they are not sure how those changes will work together. That is a big 🚩.
I'm just posing something hypothetical. What if there was a code that could be placed into muskrat's files to mess things up for them? What if there was a team of programmers who could sort things out? Or get into Russia's systems?
Donald's ratings are tanking. I don't think Donald has the wherewithal to decide anything. Muskrat and Russia are behind everything. This is a full out coup.
Trump is completely out of his depth, he probably hasn't a clue what is going on. The Republicans if the had any sense or a spine would realise that this coup isn't in THEIR interests either!!
Of course, you're right. The problem is Musk bought himself a president who has given him leeway to do as he pleases. Now Trump hides behind Suzie Q. as he tries to extricate Musk who has well overstayed his welcome.
The problem is how can Trump get rid of him when he's got receipts on what he's paid and to whom he's paid for access to American citizens. Trump is a prostitute who sold us out and now we have three whores in the WH.
Note: Your guess as to who the third individual is. I suspect that person has long since been identified.
Maybe the younger ones, esp mr. just graduated from high school, will be scared and also run off. I wonder if they have ANY clue what they've involved themselves in. Hoping their parents (if previously supportive) are joining the ranks of other orange voters who have now awakened to their new reality and will tell them to get their butts back home..
Trump loyalists would wipe out their parents and siblings at Trump's order. That's the sad reality of where we are today. This is Trump's Third Reich and we are supposed to be the "new" Germany. Well, the best-laid plans of mice and men ...
I am highly skeptical that any of the orange voters have "awakened to their new reality." What could bring about this awakening if all they watch is Faux News. If they are like the orange voters that I know, they only believe what is on Faux News. In their minds everything else is a lie. The only ones who might possibly have an awakening are the people who decided not to vote.
They have at least two direct interactions with the Federal government. And both concern the Treasury Department:
1) With the IRS to pay income taxes AND TO GET REFUND CHECKS.
2) With the SSA to get SSI and SS payments.
If Elon and Lost Boys have messed with either, then may become 'woke'. Or just accept it as one of the 'pains' Trump said they would have. Plus higher gas and grocery prices. Then how long will they accept the 'pain'.
I know what you mean, but we're beginning to see interviews of former trump supporters who are facing a PERSONAL reality. I saw one of a teacher who'd just learned about the dismantling of the Dept of Education. She's worried she'll lose her job and is angry. Several more of the same (but diff issues). Low info voters. People need to wake up; too bad they didn't BEFORE they voted, but the post vote "awakening" could be very useful..
Yes! I saw/heard more details about them earlier this evening. Lovely, aren't they?? Beyond parental "advice" . . IF the parents are appalled (but maybe they're the influencers; who knows?) I do like the idea of exposing them....
Hope you share what your attorney advises to those of us who can't afford one. Here is a rare instance where we KNOW who conducted a cyber attack -- on no less than the financial hub of our government -- so why haven't they all been arrested?
The people who'd ordinarily do any arresting WORK FOR THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION!. I have no idea how many in such a position are from the Biden era or new hires. If the latter, their belief system is sure to match that of their "masters". If holdovers, what a horrible situation to be in.
The FBI is under extreme attack. Blanket offers to "resign now and we'll pay you to up to Sept w/ benes" but specific people named for termination are those who worked on identifying and prosecuting Jan. 6 insurrectionist (who trump pardoned and sprung out of prison his first day). The FBI now reports to the new administration. I don't know who would give them orders to do the arrests of their new bosses.
1) Elon and 6 young men: When I first heard about this I made an association: Peter Pan and the Lost Boys. Especially when Peter was jumping on the campaign stage trying to fly.
2) Criminal charges against them all including Scott Bessent. The Lost Boys will become truly lost in the system. Of course, we need a real working FBI and DOJ. Note: Statute of Limitations is usually five years. February 2025 + 5 = February 2030. If elections still have any meaning and the Democratic candidate wins in 2028, then Elon is deep trouble.
3) I get my SS check this week. I know how much it should be. If SS checks are missing money, then a class action lawsuit against the defendant Elon. On behalf of the 60M+ Social Security recipients. Punitive penalty would be $1000 per month per recipient for each month that the checks are incorrect. Even to Elon that is lot.
Blame the cowards in the Republican Party! No brain, no courage, no spine, no shame! They are to blame if our democracy dies! John McCain is turning over in his grave! SHAME ON YOU!
I am accepting no blame whatsoever for this dumpster fire in the works to dismantle our democracy. Pointing fingers now does no good, but I did my part to keep Dumpster from being re-elected.
DOGE is just another way the orange scourge can make ugly things happen and then when they fall apart he can accuse others of doing the dirty thing, then throw them under the bus. It's just how the rolls..
Trump knows nothing about anything and only has half-sense. The crooked Repubs are using his popularity and ignorance to stage a coup of the federal gov't since they were inexplicably successful at taking the Presidency twice.
Vance is Heritage Foundation's boy. But they couldn't get him elected. Trump was their stalking horse to get Vance, Vought, and all the other totalitarian toads into power.
Yeah, Vance is laying low alright, with his bottle of hootch! Drunk azz that he is. I said it before, I can't wait until he shows up at a Congressional meeting full-on drunk!
Yep. He's at least smart enough to know he can just sit back and wait for the implosion. Pretty sure P2025ers are ok with this because they can run vance around even easier. The guy is in so far over his head.
Yes you are right and we know. MANY lawsuits filed already against all the illegal maneuvers, and rallies all the across the country yesterday - 50K in DC alone. Thanks so much for your support. It means a LOT!
Wise advice. Thank you. Been watching YouTube videos from WWII and reading about the rise of the Nazis since 2016. So many parallels. Many Americans don't think it could ever happen here, but it's happening right now. Started with the Supreme Court presidential immunity decision. Tech bros and billionaires are trying to rule the world with cyber weapons and surveillance devices invisible to us; we've lost our privacy. Very, very scary.
I agree but look at the line of succession we will have to get rid of JD lying pants. Than Mikey Christian nationalist speaker we would have are hands full. That being said that whole Republican party is very corrupt.
You need a ton of dept heads to agree..... of course, several really ONLY want power and might agree in order to get the orange guy out of the picture.... will be interesting to watch, ... and ...... as others are saying, look at the line of succession..
Is MAGA waking up? Yet. I think trump et al w p2025 is trying fast to take over enough to create a situation that can't be reversed when MAGA gets their reality hit
You nailed it. The planning for the 2025 coup has been going on for a long time. It took years to plan, stockpile men and supplies, train for D Day. The actual battle took place in only a day.
The Trump-Musk-GOP Axis of Evil is using decption, speed, planning and training to pull off the coup quick and fast.
No. No! This is how dumb they are. They have no interest in knowing THEY will be affected right with us. All they say is Dems are crying...does that make any sense to you? Wait until we act on this and MAGA won't know what to do if the federal govt openly weaponize against us!
Heritage and the horrific right wing "brainwashing" tanks...........are proving they do not give a s#it about MAGA.........definatly.
Maybe when their own kids start to die........thanks to conspiracy moron Kennedy........they may change their diapers and remove the maxi-pads from their heads........check in with the real world.
The courts are doing their job (thank God) and now it's time for everyone in this comment section to do theirs...VOTE OUT THE REPUBLICANS IN THE MID-TERMS. I'm a non-partisan voter, I'm no fan of Dems or Republicans, but it seems like the Dems are the only ones looking to protect the American people and preserve democracy. A total of 90 million people did not vote in the 2024 election, I'm going to assume those zombies will now wake up and see the error of their ways.
Vance is waiting for the 25th!! That was the whole plan from the get go!! Vance is waiting for the "People " to say Save us, JD from this idiot. Vance would be worse!!
The Magats do not know enough to ask to be saved from this implosion of our democracy at the hands of the Mumps. How would they know we are a disaster in the works if all they watch is Faux News. I wonder how Faux is spinning this dumpster fire. Well, one exception, of course, could very well be the price of eggs which was a major, major issue with one family member. That in and of itself could be enough to send the Magats screaming to JD to save them.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you and this podcast. I am 71 years old and my anxiety has been through the roof to the point I have had to start taking muscle relaxers because I am so tense and it is causing a lot of physical pain. Thank you so much! I’m so happy I’m in tears! 🥹❤️
Thanks Popok and Karen for all the difficult work you folks go through to get the truth to us. It is a shame that the MAGA idiots are what they are and now are crying and complaining that their loved idiot is turning on them. Whatever were these people thinking voting for a deranged predator and sex offender. This idiot's body never contained a spot in it for "Empathy"..instead it grew with narcissistic personality disorder veins.
Can’t we file a class action lawsuit against Elon for sharing our social security numbers and information, with 6 young men, with zero security clearance???!! I am furious!!!
We need an immediate stop to Elon and his computer geeks to stop AND we need every computer checked for transferred/downloaded/changed information.
This is exactly correct!!!! This is a definite breach of our privacy!!!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Trump doesn't believe in privacy except where he and his filthy operatives and family members are concerned. "Immunity for me. None for thee!" is his motto and we have the stupid SCOTUS to thank for that.
That's right. These computers must be seized and impounded.
Nope. Then no one would get any money from the government. Get the source code that the boys changed and court order that the changes be removed. I am retired mainframe programmer. It is not the hardware you want. It is the code, the instructions that cause the damage, you want.
Yes, exactly. I too just retired from a mid-range computer system at a large company. One of the things Heather Cox Richardson posted about when WIRED exposed some of the information about Elon's guys, was that the one guy, who just quit and ran away supposedly, was writing code on a production system in a way that would make it difficult to just reverse. And also that a long planned upgrade of Treasury is about to occur and they are not sure how those changes will work together. That is a big 🚩.
I'm just posing something hypothetical. What if there was a code that could be placed into muskrat's files to mess things up for them? What if there was a team of programmers who could sort things out? Or get into Russia's systems?
Brilliant. Thank you.
Muskrat's rent boy's ....Are these the same ones that got DONvict the WH?
We should always use Do old name when we talk about Musk. Donold is behind it. They just letting Elon take the hits so donolds ratings don’t tank
Donald's ratings are tanking. I don't think Donald has the wherewithal to decide anything. Muskrat and Russia are behind everything. This is a full out coup.
Trump is completely out of his depth, he probably hasn't a clue what is going on. The Republicans if the had any sense or a spine would realise that this coup isn't in THEIR interests either!!
Exactly!
Of course, you're right. The problem is Musk bought himself a president who has given him leeway to do as he pleases. Now Trump hides behind Suzie Q. as he tries to extricate Musk who has well overstayed his welcome.
The problem is how can Trump get rid of him when he's got receipts on what he's paid and to whom he's paid for access to American citizens. Trump is a prostitute who sold us out and now we have three whores in the WH.
Note: Your guess as to who the third individual is. I suspect that person has long since been identified.
I am enraged.
Honestly, I’ve NEVER been more outraged!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
S Korea ARREST Dictators!!
I have been for days and I feel confident that lawsuits will be filed.
Me too.
One of whom has, per WSJ today, fled after he was exposed as a Nazi. Same guy was the one reported by "Wired" to be the one hacking Treasury payments.
Maybe the younger ones, esp mr. just graduated from high school, will be scared and also run off. I wonder if they have ANY clue what they've involved themselves in. Hoping their parents (if previously supportive) are joining the ranks of other orange voters who have now awakened to their new reality and will tell them to get their butts back home..
Trump loyalists would wipe out their parents and siblings at Trump's order. That's the sad reality of where we are today. This is Trump's Third Reich and we are supposed to be the "new" Germany. Well, the best-laid plans of mice and men ...
I am highly skeptical that any of the orange voters have "awakened to their new reality." What could bring about this awakening if all they watch is Faux News. If they are like the orange voters that I know, they only believe what is on Faux News. In their minds everything else is a lie. The only ones who might possibly have an awakening are the people who decided not to vote.
They have at least two direct interactions with the Federal government. And both concern the Treasury Department:
1) With the IRS to pay income taxes AND TO GET REFUND CHECKS.
2) With the SSA to get SSI and SS payments.
If Elon and Lost Boys have messed with either, then may become 'woke'. Or just accept it as one of the 'pains' Trump said they would have. Plus higher gas and grocery prices. Then how long will they accept the 'pain'.
I know what you mean, but we're beginning to see interviews of former trump supporters who are facing a PERSONAL reality. I saw one of a teacher who'd just learned about the dismantling of the Dept of Education. She's worried she'll lose her job and is angry. Several more of the same (but diff issues). Low info voters. People need to wake up; too bad they didn't BEFORE they voted, but the post vote "awakening" could be very useful..
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19SBfaMDJ5/
Yes! I saw/heard more details about them earlier this evening. Lovely, aren't they?? Beyond parental "advice" . . IF the parents are appalled (but maybe they're the influencers; who knows?) I do like the idea of exposing them....
Poooootins boys all ready to commit the biggest heist in history for Muskrat!
Can we freeze the bank accounts of DONvicts whole administration?
These young men are 19-23 years old! It’s crazy!
And they need to be held accountable. 💯💯💯💯💯
It's interesting that the oldest one left already. Hmm... love to hear the story about that...
Story:
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/06/nx-s1-5289337/elon-musk-doge-treasury
JAIL FODDER!
The jailhouse gangs would love them some fresh Sallys.
Thanks, Patty Rons, I was thinking the same thing!
I’m doing everything I can, but we need an attorney to help us all. I’m calling mine tomorrow. This is complete theft of our information. 💯💯💯
It sure is!
Patty Rons, please let us know what you find out from your attorney. Thank you!
HIPPA
Yeah. So I'm just gonna go ahead and send my income taxes right on in.... (STRONG sarcasm..)
Hope you share what your attorney advises to those of us who can't afford one. Here is a rare instance where we KNOW who conducted a cyber attack -- on no less than the financial hub of our government -- so why haven't they all been arrested?
The people who'd ordinarily do any arresting WORK FOR THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION!. I have no idea how many in such a position are from the Biden era or new hires. If the latter, their belief system is sure to match that of their "masters". If holdovers, what a horrible situation to be in.
Was thinking Patel still hasn't been confirmed and don't know about the one in charge now; but I'd think the agents would be happy to arrest them.
What about the FBI?
The FBI is under extreme attack. Blanket offers to "resign now and we'll pay you to up to Sept w/ benes" but specific people named for termination are those who worked on identifying and prosecuting Jan. 6 insurrectionist (who trump pardoned and sprung out of prison his first day). The FBI now reports to the new administration. I don't know who would give them orders to do the arrests of their new bosses.
HIPPA
If there's a law firm willing to take on such a case, which I'm sure they are chomping at the bit to do so.
Exactly. Or, how's about a mutiny against the whole fam damily? They're crooks--every single last one of 'em.
I agree Patty Rons, I am just as furious!!
I agree.
1) Elon and 6 young men: When I first heard about this I made an association: Peter Pan and the Lost Boys. Especially when Peter was jumping on the campaign stage trying to fly.
2) Criminal charges against them all including Scott Bessent. The Lost Boys will become truly lost in the system. Of course, we need a real working FBI and DOJ. Note: Statute of Limitations is usually five years. February 2025 + 5 = February 2030. If elections still have any meaning and the Democratic candidate wins in 2028, then Elon is deep trouble.
3) I get my SS check this week. I know how much it should be. If SS checks are missing money, then a class action lawsuit against the defendant Elon. On behalf of the 60M+ Social Security recipients. Punitive penalty would be $1000 per month per recipient for each month that the checks are incorrect. Even to Elon that is lot.
Haul DONvict & Muskrat TO court & arrest his rent boys!
Judges Vs DOJ
WHAT CREDIBILITY?.
GET THE MILITARY TO SECURE THE WH & BARR DONvicts TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE US
Sounds reasonable to me!
Why would anyone think that a criminal, convicted felon, rapist would care about consent and acts of kindness?
This is what you get when you let criminals get away with their crimes
Exactly! We have no one to blame but ourselves.
Blame the cowards in the Republican Party! No brain, no courage, no spine, no shame! They are to blame if our democracy dies! John McCain is turning over in his grave! SHAME ON YOU!
No...blame MAGA and the lame Trump ass kissing GOP!!!
And the glacial speed of our so called justice system.
I didn't vote for the felon. I'm not blaming myself!
I am accepting no blame whatsoever for this dumpster fire in the works to dismantle our democracy. Pointing fingers now does no good, but I did my part to keep Dumpster from being re-elected.
It’s time for accountability
DOGE is Trumps attempt at another coup.
Now that you state thing that way, I think you hit the nail on the head. He knew he had to find another way. This is how that looks. How dare he???
Musk has all the money in the world, that's how.
DOGE is just another way the orange scourge can make ugly things happen and then when they fall apart he can accuse others of doing the dirty thing, then throw them under the bus. It's just how the rolls..
Trump knows nothing about anything and only has half-sense. The crooked Repubs are using his popularity and ignorance to stage a coup of the federal gov't since they were inexplicably successful at taking the Presidency twice.
Vance is laying low so when Trmp gets impeached he says he had nothing to do with the mess.
The SLUGS CANNOT HIDE
Vance is Heritage Foundation's boy. But they couldn't get him elected. Trump was their stalking horse to get Vance, Vought, and all the other totalitarian toads into power.
Yeah, Vance is laying low alright, with his bottle of hootch! Drunk azz that he is. I said it before, I can't wait until he shows up at a Congressional meeting full-on drunk!
R U thinking about hegseth or does vance have the same reputation?
Impeach them both. We need a counter coup fast!!
Yep. He's at least smart enough to know he can just sit back and wait for the implosion. Pretty sure P2025ers are ok with this because they can run vance around even easier. The guy is in so far over his head.
Trump was their useful idiot to capture the Presidency.
From the very beginning, our German government and our press have seen Project 2025 as a repeat of 1933.
Democracy is being used to destroy it and to install a dictatorship.
You in America must wake up quickly and prevent this.
Stay together.
Yes you are right and we know. MANY lawsuits filed already against all the illegal maneuvers, and rallies all the across the country yesterday - 50K in DC alone. Thanks so much for your support. It means a LOT!
Wise advice. Thank you. Been watching YouTube videos from WWII and reading about the rise of the Nazis since 2016. So many parallels. Many Americans don't think it could ever happen here, but it's happening right now. Started with the Supreme Court presidential immunity decision. Tech bros and billionaires are trying to rule the world with cyber weapons and surveillance devices invisible to us; we've lost our privacy. Very, very scary.
Jd Vance is probably working hard in the background to keep pushing project 2025 forward and helping with illegal EOs
Why can’t the 25th amendment be initiated now rather than later? It’s obvious he is out of his mind and out of control. We all know he’s a lunatic
I agree but look at the line of succession we will have to get rid of JD lying pants. Than Mikey Christian nationalist speaker we would have are hands full. That being said that whole Republican party is very corrupt.
You need a ton of dept heads to agree..... of course, several really ONLY want power and might agree in order to get the orange guy out of the picture.... will be interesting to watch, ... and ...... as others are saying, look at the line of succession..
One thought is that they are waiting for Dumpster to get his entire Cabinet in place before they hit the 25th Amendment button.
Is MAGA waking up? Yet. I think trump et al w p2025 is trying fast to take over enough to create a situation that can't be reversed when MAGA gets their reality hit
You nailed it. The planning for the 2025 coup has been going on for a long time. It took years to plan, stockpile men and supplies, train for D Day. The actual battle took place in only a day.
The Trump-Musk-GOP Axis of Evil is using decption, speed, planning and training to pull off the coup quick and fast.
No. No! This is how dumb they are. They have no interest in knowing THEY will be affected right with us. All they say is Dems are crying...does that make any sense to you? Wait until we act on this and MAGA won't know what to do if the federal govt openly weaponize against us!
TONS of rallies at state capitols across the nation yesterday.... the head of Indivisible said 50K in DC alone (and on hardly ANY notice)
Heritage and the horrific right wing "brainwashing" tanks...........are proving they do not give a s#it about MAGA.........definatly.
Maybe when their own kids start to die........thanks to conspiracy moron Kennedy........they may change their diapers and remove the maxi-pads from their heads........check in with the real world.
We are watching a regime of dumbf*kery - that's WHAT
The courts are doing their job (thank God) and now it's time for everyone in this comment section to do theirs...VOTE OUT THE REPUBLICANS IN THE MID-TERMS. I'm a non-partisan voter, I'm no fan of Dems or Republicans, but it seems like the Dems are the only ones looking to protect the American people and preserve democracy. A total of 90 million people did not vote in the 2024 election, I'm going to assume those zombies will now wake up and see the error of their ways.
Vance is waiting for the 25th!! That was the whole plan from the get go!! Vance is waiting for the "People " to say Save us, JD from this idiot. Vance would be worse!!
✔️💯AbsoFREAKINGlutely❗USAflag💙
The Magats do not know enough to ask to be saved from this implosion of our democracy at the hands of the Mumps. How would they know we are a disaster in the works if all they watch is Faux News. I wonder how Faux is spinning this dumpster fire. Well, one exception, of course, could very well be the price of eggs which was a major, major issue with one family member. That in and of itself could be enough to send the Magats screaming to JD to save them.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you and this podcast. I am 71 years old and my anxiety has been through the roof to the point I have had to start taking muscle relaxers because I am so tense and it is causing a lot of physical pain. Thank you so much! I’m so happy I’m in tears! 🥹❤️
Thanks Popok and Karen for all the difficult work you folks go through to get the truth to us. It is a shame that the MAGA idiots are what they are and now are crying and complaining that their loved idiot is turning on them. Whatever were these people thinking voting for a deranged predator and sex offender. This idiot's body never contained a spot in it for "Empathy"..instead it grew with narcissistic personality disorder veins.
FBI makes a plea to stop targeting the J6 Agents doing their job, it’s being reported on Deadline Whitehouse